Working on my relationship thinking

General notes

Books for relationship:

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How to Not Die Alone

The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work

Alcohol Problem

Write about the alcohol problem (see journal notes from around 4/11)

If problems related to alcohol are erased am I excited and feel lucky to be in the relationship?

From Bryan

Mindset change when the relationship became important

Began running towards the relationship

Took six months of dating other people to see that

Miscellaneous

I can’t control my woman, I can only love her.

Will I ever find someone who sings great big beautiful tomorrow right before going to sleep?

from link, think about #2, appreciation, and if it’s sufficient

Would I ever text if I didn’t think it was something to help the other person, or to answer a question I need answered? Do I ever need to be made to feel better through text? Perhaps when I’m angry or upset with the other person. Perhaps a sign of a problem with the relationship

What could Carmen do differently to make me excited about this relationship?

Think seriously about what it would be like to lose the relationship

is this what I want? am I willing to do this for this relationship?

Consider a relationship situation where Carmen is willing to move and do whatever I want, how does that change how I feel about things

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Figure out who you’d want to be married to even if you weren’t in love with them. If a marriage only works conditional on being in love, it’s ngmi unless you’re very stubborn or have very unusual emotional mettle

I have been thinking so seriously about “my next relationship”, what does this mean?

My next relationship will have a period of jealousy and insecurity just like they all do but ask your partner to help you get through it and on the other side of it things will be better in normal

Had an dream where I was in a relationship with Emma

Note from Charlotte thinking about relationship and life work

Note from when she was in Miami

You never want to stay out late with me

Feels like I am being cheated on , some guys that you are following that you had to tell that you’re not going to their home with them

Can you imagine if I did this?

You said things like I don’t want you to enjoy yourself or be yourself, and that scares me because it feels like you’re trying to push away and my attempts to keep you safe come across as me being possessive

It’s absurd that I have to pretend to be chill so that you won’t self sabotage

Relationship

Compatibilities

  • Humor, silliness
  • Excitement for travel,
  • Political perspective
  • Desire to try new food / drink
  • Interest in well-designed experiences
  • Overall frugality
  • High level location preferences

Incompatibilities

  • Differences in preferred types of luxury
  • $ management style
  • Sleep schedule
  • Pet prioritization
  • Not fully aligned on “conversation topics” (what things to talk about, or how much to talk about them)
  • Conflict management styles (not yet)
  • Possible living location concerns?
  • “Impact” prioritization
  • How we should manage friends and family

Potential Problems on my end

  • Inability to get into “relaxed” mode when together (i.e. need alone time to do work / play)
  • Defensive tendency, born maybe out of some belief that I’m consistently “giving”
  • Invalidating tendency?

If I’m feeling nervous when a partner is being distant and also affectionate at the same time what does that mean? Is there bad memory there?

Exercises

Article

Notes

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Many of those who make it into forever-happily-devoted partners have learned the secret to that outcome. They have never seen the options offered on their “relationship island” as fixed entities. They absolutely trust and believe that their relationship is not rigid nor limited. In fact, they see it as having infinite possibilities for innovation and continuously new perspectives. They express that attitude in the way they think about being together:

  • When there are temptations outside the relationship, they talk about them together and recommit to each other with that new data in mind. Instead of being jealous or insecure, they re-examine their relationship to bring back those feelings within it.
  • When they feel trapped or bored, they add new dimensions to the relationship that rejuvenate it, whether bringing outside experiences in or creating them together.
  • They commit to, and master, successful conflict resolution. Arguments are never “rehashed.” They are debriefed, much as any team does after a game, searching for how they can do it better the next time around.
  • They make certain that their positive interactions continually outweigh their negative ones.
  • They know that they can lose one another at any time, and never take the future for granted.

Perfect Relationship Island Partner

If you could design the perfect relationship island partner that includes all of the good things you may have left behind, but omits those actions or experiences that hurt or disappointed you, and have the above knowledge clearly in mind, what would he or she look like?

Think of the personality characteristics, behaviors, philosophies, beliefs, social circles, crises coping mechanisms, physical attractions, family attachments, career choices, emotional temperaments, financial attitudes and obligations that would be most important to you were you to live happily ever after on this relationship island forever.

Personality characteristics

Relaxed, funny

Behaviors

Speaks up when something’s on their mind

Enjoys travel, willing to live abroad

Likes staying up late to watch something together

Enjoys walks, but doesn’t need to go no long hikes

Likes trying foods and drinks

Philosophies

Softly utilitarian

Beliefs

Loves Disney

Social circles

Communicates with people who are trying to do interesting things

Relatively unattached to social gratification

Crisis coping mechanisms

Calm, assures me that I don’t need to be nervous about them

Physical attractions

Likes me agnostic to body type and how may hair / facial hair is

Family attachments

Family has some cultural ease with my family

Career choices

Has a strong curiosity about a certain area

Willing to deal with various degrees of limelight

Emotional temperaments

Equanimity

Laughter first

Financial attitudes / obligations

Willing to spend money, but doesn’t usually default to doing so

Equal balance between the two of us in terms of who wants to spend more or less

Go through old partners

What happened?

Make a list of the most significant relationship islands you’ve lived on in the past. Write down next to each partnership what you saw in it when it began, what kept you in that relationship for as long as you stayed, and why you eventually chose to leave.

When you have finished, look at your patterns. What have you sought in relationships? Have you been realistic in your expectations? What have you learned about yourself in living through them? What are you looking, for now, that is different from what you might have in the past?

Then acknowledge and accept whatever limitations exist in your life that will make your options more available. Critically and honestly assess your actual values in the environment in which they can best be appreciated.

Alignment with Perfect Relationship Island Partner

Helen

What happened?

Beginning

She liked me, I liked that she liked me, she was funny and attractive

What made it continue

We made each other laugh and comfortable

Ending

I drifted away

Alignment (out of 10)

Personality: 8

Behaviors: 7

Philosophies: 4

Beliefs: 5

Social circles: 3

Crisis coping mechanisms: 4

Physical attractions: 5

Family attachments: 5

Career choices: 4

Emotional temperaments: 6

Financial attitudes / obligations: 7

AVERAGE: 5.3

Erin

What happened

Beginning

We found each other attractive and connected by culture

What made it continue

We were pretty aligned philosophically

Ending

There was a lot of emotional trauma

Alignment (out of 10)

Personality: 8

Behaviors: 8

Philosophies: 9

Beliefs: 7

Social Circles: 6

Crisis coping mechanisms: 3

Physical attractions: 7

Family attachments: 6

Career choices: 8

Emotional temperaments: 4

Financial attitudes / obligations: 8

AVERAGE: 6.7

Kerry

What happened

Beginning

We were good friends first, and stumbled into this

What made it continue

We were both relaxed and trusted each other

Ending

We weren’t williing to uproot our lives for each other

Alignment (out of 10)

Personality: 8

Behaviors: 6

Philosophies: 7

Beliefs: 6

Social Circles: 5

Crisis coping mechanisms: 7

Physical attractions: 7

Family attachments: 3

Career choices: 7

Emotional temperaments: 8

Financial attitudes / obligations: 9

AVERAGE: 6.7

Carmen

Alignment (out of 10)

Personality: 9

Behaviors: 7

Philosophies: 6

Beliefs: 7

Social Circles: 6

Crisis coping mechanisms: 4

Physical attractions: 6

Family attachments: 7

Career choices: 7

Emotional temperaments: 7

Financial attitudes / obligations: 5

AVERAGE: 6.5

What have you sought in relationships? Have you been realistic in your expectations? What have you learned about yourself in living through them? What are you looking, for now, that is different from what you might have in the past?

I have sought someone who liked me, had a personality I liked, and had a style of communication that matched with mine.

My expectations have not been realistic, which is part of why I’ve fallen out of love after a year or two.

I love my partner strongly yet also hold extremely high standards. I love them despite not meeting my unrealistic standards. That leads to me getting stuck out of love but in an obligated relationship.

What I’ve learned

I need to ground my expectations more

I need to notice when I’m starting to move from in love to in obligation

I’m not sure what the difference between love and obligation is, and I was hoping it would be apparent to me in a relationship but it hasn’t been yet. Perhaps I need to find a way to make love the work rather than the feeling.

Now, I’m looking for a relationship that can make it over the hurdle of my expectations. Which means something meeting in the middle: making my expectations realistic and more grounded in reality, but also working towards bringing the relationship to the place that meets my expectations.

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Notes

If you’re typically a brain person, when it comes to The Decision, you want to try to not be you. Because the brain, for all its merits, does not do well in this situation, where the outcome is critical and evidence is hard to come by.

You decide to make a big chart where you list all the things you like and don’t like about your relationship—a relationship-assessment chart. You end up here:

Gut thought experiments

Find out where your gut is leaning, using thought experiments:

Examples

Imagine you were being arranged married by the town matchmaker and she handed you an envelope with your to-be spouse’s name written inside. You open the envelope and it’s the name of your current partner.”

Feel pretty good then, not ecstatic but not bad

Glad to have some validation that I just need to work on this relationship not go trying to do better

7/10

Picture two gravestones next to each other—yours and your partners. Does that feel right?

5/10, ok

If there were a big green button in front of me that, if pressed, would make me fully single, where everything has been worked out with getting our things from each other’s apartments, where everyone in my life already knows, and where I’m totally emotionally recovered and moving on—in fact, I have a date tonight—would I press the button?” (and / or immersed in new relationship)

This one’s hard. Feels like this is the one that makes or breaks it. Holding all else equal would I take a new relationship at the same point?

What if The Decision weren’t between breaking up and marriage, but only between breaking up and committing to the relationship for the next five years?

Not super helpful, since it’s a pretty important 5 years

others?

Go through child names and imagine discussing them.

One core problem seems to be that I don’t love discussing things with her. I can’t tell if that’s just a “these days” thing or more permanent

Is this true?

Buying a home together, am I looking forward to that?

Would I give up a job that would help my career to stay together?

Dealbreakers

Examples

There’s no way I can figure out how to be happy with someone who is / isn’t ____.

There’s no way I can figure out how to be happy with someone who does / doesn’t __.

There’s no way I can figure out how to be happy with someone who values / doesn’t value ____.

There’s no way I can figure out how to be happy with someone who treats me / doesn’t treat me ____.

There’s no way I can figure out how to be happy with someone who believes / doesn’t believe ____.

Out of principle, I will only be with / will not be with someone who ____.

separate fixable vs unfixable problems (some dealbreakers may be fixable)

Thoughts

Money and materialism

need to be able to discuss things deeply without feeling hurt / sensitive

When drinking I get stressed

Part of the epic friendship is being able to go on bus rides with homeless people at night. Is that a requirement?

Do I need to be willing to give up a professional aspiration to make the relationship work? e.g. not going to SF to stay together

Committed and break up worldviews

What does life honestly and deeply look like in each scenario?

Check books for relationship

Books for relationship:

1

How to Not Die Alone

The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work